Maegoss made what are valid criticisms:
I know you will hate me for this, but I think the new GUI is not that phenomenal. Most new GUI features were stolen from other phones, eg:crimson05 doesn't get it.
- Pulling the menu up stolen from Android
- Small line on the main menu that tells you on which screen you are - stolen from Android/HTC Hero
- In calendar the way of setting the date with the scrolling wheels (year, month, day) to set the time - stolen from iPhone/Android
- Picture viewer in landscape showing all pictures in "filmstrip" - stolen from Android/HTC Hero
- The pulling down of the upper bar (containing the operator name, date, battery state, etc.) - stolen from Android
- The new copy-paste way - stolen straight from iPhone
- The new way of rearranging the icons on screen: the trashbin at the middle bottom and the plus sign at the bottom right - stolen from Android/HTC Hero
It seems Meizu developers didn't have any ideas of their own, so they "borrowed" others ideas. Earlier the M8 was only an iPhone clone; after the new GUI is used it will be an iPhone and an Android clone as well.
what is you problem?Bullcrap. The Mac, Windows and Linux operating systems look nothing alike unless you think icons make all OS's the same. Anyone with a lick of sanity knows that Meizu is profiting from what engineers at Apple and Google did. They are blatant thieves. Chinese companies are stealing from companies around the world. Ask Samsung or LG or Nokia what they think about these Chinese knock-offs.
it looks good and has a good usability
tell me a really new concept for a phone
it is impossible
every company "steals" from others
look at macos, win 7 and newer linux dists
they all look nearly the same
For the crimson05's of the world who think it doesn't matter, let me ask: If you had a bright idea for a product and you knew that someone else would sell a duplicate in a few months so as to profit off your work and there wasn't anything you could do about it, would you have the same opinion?
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Are the Chinese capable of building anything unique?
The Shanghai Tower...? :-p
You're right though, most of their advances in electronics and military hardware are rooted in corporate espionage and outright theft.
I hear they're buying lots of gold because they know the USD will be worthless in a few years.
I wasn't aware of that skyscraper, thanks. Places that experienced the most insane skyscraper mania will fare the worst in the (d)(r)ecession.
Second oldest profession is stealing ideas/goods. You never said what the price point was vs Iphone. The government will burn a few hundred in a big show of support of international laws, and then open up ten thousand stores to sell them. We should be more concerned about military hardware than civilizn toys. One of the odd stories of WWII is that the Japs used US rail road bridge designs, which due to location in SW asia caused them to way way overspec them to their true potential use.
There is no respect for copyright law in Chinese culture. They can have all the laws on the books they want but the people over there don't even understand what copyrights or patents are. It's a philisophical difference, there's no changing it.
Oh, and Shanghai tower is not a Chinese design... It was designed by Gensler.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gensler
They can build and design anything they want to...but right now they are jumping from the 1930s into 2010...big jump in know how..Japan did it, Korea did it, ROC did it...and so can India...if the governments will allow free markets to operate...here or there the only limits is the limits placed upon society by government.
here or there the only limits is the limits placed upon society by government.
I don't beleive that is correct with China. I work with a lot of Chinese and have a lot of Chinese friends. They are true believers in the communist system. Democracy and free markets don't mean the same thing to them as it does to us. It doesn't matter if you give them the opportunity for freedom, they don't want it. They want a government that tells them what to do and that will take care of them. It seems that about half of the U.S. believes the same thing these days. Why should it be any surprise that the Chinese think that way?
So when and where will the theft and deception end?
I'm somewhat meh on the topic. Japan used to get lambasted for doing nothing but copying and look where they are now. That being said, Japan is most definitely not China. From everything I've experienced the only thing they have in common is they both eat rice.
Remember, Dickens thought that he had only sold a few books in America when in reality he was a best selling author. For the longest time book publishers hated the US since we were regarded by everyone as a bunch of pirates.
I'll bet the price is tasty.
Japan used to get lambasted for doing nothing but copying and look where they are now.
This was before my time. The only reference point I have is my Dr. Strangelove DVD. "The strange thing is they make such bloody good cameras." 15 years into Japan's rebirth they were known for manufacturing quality products.
China, 30 years after our de-industrial policy? Different. I can't point to a single Chinese manufacturer that is renowned for home-grown quality. They are either US, Japanese, Taiwanese, Korean or European-engineered products manufactured in China, or crappy knock-offs spec'd out and engineered by Chinese companies.
Japan used to get lambasted for doing nothing but copying and look where they are now.
Japan may have gotten lambasted for it but they weren't copying designs exactly. They took others designs and improved on them. The Chinese build exact replicas of things. They have exact replicas of BMWs down to the tee over there. Japan never did that.
True, Japan was copy and improve and China is just copy. That is a big difference in their cultures.
Japan was copy and improve and China is just copy.
Bingo. Except their copies are WORSE.
I won't say this is a Chinese trait, because I think that the Chinese are fully capable of doing great things. I think it is the political and economic system.
True. Chinese copies are usually inferior. But I chalk that up to the different culture between them and Japan.
Kinda like when Russia would copy anything.
I won't say this is a Chinese trait, because I think that the Chinese are fully capable of doing great things. I think it is the political and economic system.
I agree Lou. I think what they think of as "great things" are not what we would consider "great things" though.
Making the rest of the world over to be more like China would be a great thing to them. Destroying capitalism and stealing all the money from the rich Unites States would be a great thing to them. They're not evil and they don't mean us any harm. They just believe, as we believe about oursleves also that the system they live under is the best and that they should spread it to the rest of the world.
And yet we each probably buy a container load's worth from China over our lifetime.
If I need anything electronic the first thing I do is hit ebay where I can get all kinds of dirt cheap cr*p shipped direct to my door.
Where else can you get a USB cable for 99 cents delivered?
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