Thursday, July 2, 2009

California: Blue state welfare queen

Comment on Calculated Risk:
Its also the other way around. A lot of California's revenue goes to prop up the "red states"
Name one.

Have a great Independence Day!

6 comments:

Lou Minatti said...

The "California is propping up red states" meme is growing as their budget situation gets more desperate. So go ahead, tell me which of the other 49 states are "propped up" by California taxpayers.

Andrew said...

Nebraska. ;-)

Anonymous said...

Since california's gross state product is equal to the combined sum of the lower 25 states when ranked by gross state product I would imagine that some of california's contributed wealth to federal govt gets redistributed to the less populated states. However most of us here are tired of the ca legislature pointing fingers at everyone else and refusing to do their jobs. Before there is any additional california bashing, california also contributes more than its fair share to the military as well. California only represents about 12% of the population, but also provides about 15% of new military recruits. Except in the peoples republic of san francisco where they try to ban recruiters from the city because they are insane.

Lou Minatti said...

some of california's contributed wealth to federal govt gets redistributed to the less populated states.

Yes, but the same happens with the other 49 states. We are all taxed equally* and that loot is sent to DC.

The meme is lame. Some like to whine that California is "propping up" New Mexico. They don't consider that New Mexico has a small population and a few federal installations like Los Alamos account for the majority of that money, which doesn't benefit the vast majority of New Mexico residents. Really, the money goes to people who move to New Mexico and out-of-state contractors.

Or Alaska. All of that federal money. Well, consider that Alaska has a tiny population but also has a number of important military installations due to the fact that it's our northern frontier. Ditto North Dakota.

If you wanna get down to it, why not track taxes paid vs federal monies coming in on a county-by-county level? Orange County residents can rant about Imperial County stealing all of their money.

* Not quite true. Most of the country doesn't benefit from the home mortgage welfare subsidies that bubble states get.

Anonymous said...

It is a false argument....no way Cali would allow want SAC missle silos in LA or SF or OMG Napa. Providing for common defense is kinda in the constitution, nannyhood ain't so let's count only nanny dollars and see where we get. Plus taxes should be all forms for revenue to the government including oil lease revenues, which might move Alaska down a notch on a per capata bases.

incessant_din said...

"It is a false argument....no way Cali would allow want SAC missle silos in LA or SF or OMG Napa."

Umm, California hosts Ground Based Midcourse Defense at Vandenberg. There are scores of old Nike installations near L.A. Recon is based out of Beale. The Navy still has a huge presence in San Diego. California has a nuke lab that is essentially the equivalent of Los Alamos, and a smaller version of the Sandia lab. And, outside of the most liberal parts of the Bay Area, it is actually pretty patriotic.

Gerrymandered districts make the state dominated by one party. On a population basis, the state is not nearly as lopsided.

And I contend that my fellow voters who turned out to turn down the latest taxes and borrowing, were doing so to send a message to cut spending. We're not mailing in the keys just yet.